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In May 2008, the world's first international conference of AIDS dissidents took place in the city of Yekaterinburg, which was organized by the All-Russian public movement "All-Russian Parents' Assembly".

The conference was attended by:

  • Anthony Brink - lawyer of the Supreme Court of South Africa, chairman of the national AIDS Treatment Information Group, author of many books and publications on the toxicity of antiretroviral drugs;
  • John Crossley - cameraman and filmmaker from South Africa;
  • Juliane Sacher - a doctor from Germany who treats AIDS with alternative methods;
  • Roberto Giraldo - doctor, psychoanalyst, specialist in internal medicine and infectious diseases, employee of the University of Antioquia (Colombia), master of clinical and tropical medicine, honorary member of the International Society of Analytical Trilogy (Sao Paulo, Brazil), since 1981 - independent researcher AIDS problems, since 1997 - member of the Board of Directors of the association “Rethinking AIDS”;
  • Joan Shenton - journalist from England, administrator of the immunity resource fund, director of MeditelProduction;
  • Sazonova Irina Mikhailovna - doctor, chairman of the section of medical and biological problems of the Research Foundation for the Management of Civilizational Processes, member of the Moscow Union of Journalists, author of the book “HIV-AIDS. A virtual virus or the provocation of the century,” co-author of the book “AIDS: The Verdict is Canceled”;
  • Dmitrevsky Andrey Alexandrovich - member of the Union of Journalists of Russia, author of articles about AIDS dissidents, co-author of the book “AIDS: The Sentence is Canceled”, awarded the commemorative badge of the Union of Journalists of Russia “For services to domestic journalism”;
  • Christine Maggiore - author of the book “What if everything you know about AIDS is not true?”, founder of the non-profit educational organization“Alive&Well” (Los Angeles, America);
  • Lluis Botinas - writer, independent AIDS researcher from Spain;
  • Archpriest Dmitry (Smirnov) - Chairman of the Synodal Department for interaction with the armed forces and law enforcement agencies;
  • Ageev Vladimir Alexandrovich - doctor, candidate of medical sciences, author of the book “Fictitious diseases: HIV/AIDS, SARS, bird flu, swine flu, Legionnaires' pneumonia" (Irkutsk);
  • Bolgova Taisiya Vasilievna - lawyer, head of the Ust-Koksinsky branch of the Bar Association of the Altai Republic, chairman of the social movement of women “Katun”;
  • Avdyushin German Sergeevich - Chairman of the All-Russian public movement "All-Russian Parent meeting" (Yekaterinburg city);
  • Khramova Nadezhda Grigorievna - Candidate of Psychological Sciences, Associate Professor, member of the Central Council of the All-Russian Parents' Assembly (Ekaterinburg).

Conference materials can be found on the website www.oodvrs.ru

On our website we will introduce you to a report about this conference by its participant - journalist Joan Shenton

ALL-RUSSIAN PUBLIC MOVEMENT "ALL-RUSSIAN PARENTAL MEETING" - INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE "Problems of HIV and AIDS and the family well-being of the nation" EKATERINBURG May 29 - 30, 2008

Reporting by Joan Shenton
(Translation by Sazonova I.M.)

When I was sitting on the plane and heard that the captain of our plane was called Igor and our flight attendant was called Svetlana, I knew for sure that I was flying to Russia. I have traveled around the world quite a lot - both in breadth and depth - but I have never been to Russia.

I was all the more excited about visiting this new territory because I was invited to speak about what had become my life's work in one of the most remote cities in Europe.

Yekaterinburg in the Urals, with its 1.5 million inhabitants, is a powerful industrial research center, home to vast mineral deposits, home to an arsenal of military technology and weapons during World War II, home to precious metals and semi-precious stones.

The host of our conference was the All-Russian public movement “All-Russian Parents' Assembly”. The reason for the conference was a deep concern among its members about the way in which, in their view, the accepted infectious hypothesis of AIDS was being imposed in Russia through the judiciary, medical practice and in schools. The biggest outrage is the hyper-sexualization of children and young people who are subjected to explicit sex education programs at age seven with the justification that they must learn about safe sex at all costs. http://www.oodvrs.ru

Doctor Irina Sazonova A physician and homeopath from Moscow followed the development of AIDS dissident views among scientists and journalists around the world for 24 years and became convinced that the infectious hypothesis of viral AIDS was not correct. It was she who decided that an international conference was needed, inviting dissident voices from all continents to meet with their Russian counterparts and develop a strategy that could break the monopoly of opinions of the AIDS orthodox.

Irina asked Anthony Brinka(Anthony Brink), South African lawyer and AIDS activist ( having an alternative view on the problem of HIV and AIDS - approx. translator), compile a list of delegates. Key participants were to be Perth Group scientists from Western Australia - Dr Val Turner and biophysicist Eleni Eleopulos. Because they were not able to attend the conference and Anthony Brink gave a talk on their behalf called "The Missing Virus".

The preparation of the conference took place with the assistance of German Avdyushin- Chairman of the All-Russian public movement "All-Russian Parents' Assembly".

The conference was held at one of the fifteen institutes in the city, which also housed a technical college and a museum of precious and semi-precious stones. I will highlight here only the main points of the conference, which was held with the help of two wonderful and tireless translators - Lena and Denis, who took turns.

German Avdyushin, Chairman of the All-Russian public movement “All-Russian Parents' Assembly” opened the conference. He was responsible for the enormous task of convening and coordinating the conference, as well as arranging for our arrival from various parts of the globe. He reminded us all that Vladimir Putin declared 2008 the Year of the Family.

Nadezhda Khramova- psychologist from Yekaterinburg. Nadezhda explained why she supported the convening of this conference. She said the family should be the "productive unit that drives demographic growth" but AIDS prevention policies are having a clearly destructive impact in all aspects family life. She mentioned very early introduction sex education for seven-year-old schoolchildren and how difficult it was to oppose it because anyone who objected was seen as being against AIDS prevention.

Khramova described a theater troupe from France that traveled to schools to teach AIDS prevention and safe sex. They performed a simulated sex act in the school courtyard, and when asked why they did it, they said that if children did not learn about safe sex, they would inevitably be stricken with AIDS.

Next was Dr. Irina Sazonova- therapist and homeopath. She wanted to dedicate the conference to “living without fear,” pointing out that the fear of death has poisoned the collective consciousness. How can it be, she asked, that there has been no critical assessment of the progress (or lack thereof) in the AIDS establishment's prevention policies? Is anyone tracking where the massive funding allocated for AIDS prevention is going? Is anyone analyzing the predictions that we will all be extinct by 2010? Why don't people know about the large body of scientific work on the non-viral theory of AIDS? Or do they not want to know? In Russia, she said, there is another type of AIDS - “Legal and Intellectual Deficit Syndrome.” There was absolutely no critical assessment existing theories and practical work on AIDS and no critical analysis of the toxicity of antiretroviral drugs.

Sazonova pointed out that in Russia, according to Federal Law, only blood and organ donors, as well as workers in certain professions specified by the Ministry of Health, are subject to mandatory HIV testing. Since 1995, the law has strictly prohibited mandatory HIV testing of other groups.

But what happens? People are being checked everywhere. Pregnant women are tested three times during their pregnancy (none of these tests are mandatory). No one is responsible for these violations of the law. People find it easier to comply than to complain. The result, Sazonova said, is the systematic destruction of the family. Mothers are forced to have abortions. If they refuse an abortion, they are given poisonous antiviral drugs that destroy their immune system. This, Irina said, is genocide of the nation.

Dr Roberto Giraldo

Giraldo delivered his presentation with his usual infectious enthusiasm. My notes include the highlights - the opening of his speech, where he reminded us of the official AIDS figures - 25 years into the pandemic, 40 million HIV positive, 25 million dead. We are facing medical genocide,” he said.

He then pointed out several anomalies: Why are 60% of AIDS cases said to occur in Africa and only 2% in Brazil? Why is Russia said to have the highest HIV/AIDS rates in Europe? WHO and UNAIDS are spreading alarmist stories about Russia, saying there is a high HIV infection rate there. But we must remember that most people with HIV positive test, does not get AIDS.

He also reminded us of the 5,000 official cases of AIDS without HIV described in medical literature. Giraldo has spent many years researching the role of physical and chemical stressors in immune failure. Exposure to immunological stressors or oxidative agents causes moderate decreases immune defense in many asymptomatic people who respond positively to the HIV test. If exposure to immunological stressors is not stopped or if the person does not undergo detoxification, then the health status of these people will in many cases deteriorate, their immune systems will eventually be destroyed with subsequent development clinical manifestations AIDS.

He mentioned diluting ELISA antibody tests. In his laboratory work he was able to demonstrate that all human blood samples reacted positively to the ELISA test when the tests were performed with undiluted serum. This indicates that all people have antibodies against what is supposed to be HIV. People who react positively with straight serum would have fewer antibodies than those who react positively when the serum is diluted 400 times. This observation was confirmed by Yugoslav and Italian researchers (Metlas et al., 1999).

There have been many intriguing examples, for example, in Chile, women who work in the wine industry and grape pickers, or work in the vineyard, became HIV positive, although their husbands remained negative. This could be due to the toxic effect of agrochemicals used in the vineyards, Giraldo said.

Father Dmitry (Smirnov)

Now I will turn to Father Dmitry. He is a Russian priest Orthodox Church and Chairman of the Synodal Department for Cooperation with the Armed Forces and Law Enforcement Agencies. Father Dmitry drew a parallel between the threat of HIV/AIDS and the mythical threat of international terrorism.

In both cases he sees justification for the abuse of human rights. He most vividly described how a mythical threat can be concocted and spread throughout the world: it's a bit like a train, where you keep adding cars until it eventually reaches people's consciousness. All you need is an initial idea. Then you invent a non-governmental organization that will supposedly fight this imaginary threat. At the next stage, the media join in to develop and disseminate the initial idea of ​​​​a mythical threat. By then, anyone who disagrees with the mythical threat will be considered crazy. In Russia it is very easy to do the above because bribery and corruption have become part of everyday life.

Father Dmitry believes that the threat of AIDS is being used as an excuse to reduce the world's population and destroy family integrity.

Anthony Brink

Anthony Brink's report described how President Mbeki warned Parliament in October 1999 about the toxicity of AZT and antiretroviral drugs in pregnancy. However, the Treatment Action Campaign (TAC) eventually forced the South African government to approve AZT for pregnant women [see “Poisoning our Children - AZT in pregnancy” by Anthony Brink]. http://www.tig.org.za

Brink mentioned that he received a letter from Professor Richard Beltz, who was involved in the development of AZT, saying that he (Brink) was right in what he wrote about AZT. He hoped that Brink would succeed in convincing his government (South Africa) not to make AZT available.

Beware of non-governmental AIDS organizations, Brink said, operating in Russia. IN South Africa they are more powerful than the government.

In November 2008, a biography of Mbeki was published, which described Mbeki as an AIDS dissident. Mbeki wrote to the author specifically to confirm that he was correct in describing him as an AIDS dissident, but denied the author's attribution of his dissent to psychological factors, and not to the facts that actually exist.

Tamara's story

In the afternoon, a young married couple joined us in the conference hall.

Tamara told us her story. She discovered that she was HIV positive during her second pregnancy and was advised to have an abortion. She refused.

Tamara insisted on breastfeeding her child. She was told by both lawyers and doctors that if she did not abstain from breastfeeding, she could lose her child. She was not taking any ARV medication. Social service threatened to take her child away from her.

Doctor Irina Sazonova intervened, advising Tamara to contact the highest authorities.

Christine Majore then took the floor, noting that in her experience with the Alive and Well Group, it was not uncommon for mothers to test positive for HIV antibodies during their second pregnancy. Babies are almost always born negative. Tamara said that she was very grateful for the support that the All-Russian Parents' Meeting gave her today and in the past.

Conference resolution

The resolution describes the current situation and ends with the following actions:

  1. Publish the results of the conference “The Problem of HIV/AIDS and the Family Well-Being of the Nation” in a collection of reports and on the website of the All-Russian public movement “All-Russian Parents’ Assembly” www.oodvrs.ru.
  2. Create video material with speeches on alternative views on the problem of HIV and AIDS.
  3. Create an international network of honest journalists to improve the delivery of information to the public.
  4. Share information globally with dissident scientists and disseminate this information to combat the silent censorship against alternative views on AIDS.
  5. Emphasize that the conference participants concluded that controversies regarding the causes and treatment of AIDS have many aspects and implications: technical, scientific, medical, ethical, moral, legal, social, political and economic.

In essence, the HIV/AIDS myth is an information pilot experiment carried out on the population of the whole world. A new type of demographic war is being waged against Russia - an information war. Its core is the so-called “HIV/AIDS prevention”, which is used as a political, pharmaceutical and international commercial weapon.

Discussion of the resolution

The discussion centered on the need to reach out to government agencies and health departments at their earliest high level, persuading them to change their health education policies. It is necessary to contact government authorities. Christine Majore reminded us that April 23rd is Rethink AIDS Day. Joan Shenton suggested that we call it "International AIDS Rethink Day."

Joan Shenton

Shenton spoke regarding censorship, highlighting examples of the ways in which dissident scientists and journalists were stifled and silenced through silencing.

The dominant scientific oligarchy of virologists did not allow any debate. They refused to enter into any debate, saying that the issue had been addressed "in an article by Weiss and Jaffe in Nature, where Peter Duesberg was accused of being "absurd ", "risky", "downplaying safe sex" and "theory flat earth"(Nature vol 345, 21 June 1990, pp. 659-660).

The then editor of Nature, Sir John Maddox, denied Duesberg a right of reply, rejecting his rebuttal and allowing him only a 300-word letter. Shenton also described many other examples of censorship.

After the Yekaterinburg conference, Shenton read an article by Professor Gordon Stewart in the Index on Censorship (Vol 3, 1999), describing his attempts to draw attention to the British government's wildly overblown AIDS predictions based on the infection hypothesis. Stewart's calculations based on the risk hypothesis were carried out with high accuracy, but no one would publish them, despite his position in the scientific world (emeritus professor of health at the University of Glasgow and member of several UN health commissions).

Shenton's worst experience was the cancellation of her one-hour program on Channel 4k World Day fight against AIDS in 1998 and the subsequent ban - on the night before the broadcast - of a Channel 4 news broadcast featuring her speech. In it, she intended to describe some of the anomalies her team found when comparing HIV tests.

Shenton showed a half-hour program she did with Huw Christie about an interview with President Mbeki. This program "Finding Solutions" was broadcast from Johannesburg in April 2000 by South African station M-Net. There were forces working against this transmission, but Shenton was happy to say that it was transmitted to all of Africa. No Western journalist would screen an interview with Mbeki.

The film can be downloaded from the Immunity Research Foundation website.

http://www.immunity.org.uk

Luis Botinas

Lewis proposed four complementary approaches to the question: “Does HIV really exist”, posed in the Perth group's scientific description “The Missing Virus”.

His speech, along with others, will be available in full on the Immunity Research Foundation website. I will indicate below one of the key points of Botinas' speech:

“Could a virus that actually exists not have any viral protein? Is it really a coincidence that all the supposed “HIV proteins” are endogenous and, one way or another, we all have?

This is another critical feature of the imaginary "HIV": it has no protein of its own. The Perth Group demonstrated that all proteins attributed to so-called "HIV" are, in fact, human proteins.

Therefore, if the supposed "HIV" has no stable genetic information at all, and if all the proteins that are assigned to it are in fact human proteins, then it has no biological legal entity at all. The imaginary "HIV" is a fiction... and the fiction is everything that is called "HIV/AIDS", for which HIV is the main factor.

Dr Vladimir Ageev

Dr. Ageev is a pathologist who works with drug addicts. He gave a comprehensive and detailed report in which I will highlight only some of the main points.

Ageev began by describing how the HIV/AIDS paradigm has destroyed families, caused suicides and multiple abandonments of children diagnosed with HIV+ by parents.

He pointed out that during a recent round table discussion, a representative from the United Nations said that the unfortunate thing is that in Russia we are still at initial stages AIDS epidemic that it would peak in 2050 and that current regional and federal budgets were not sufficient. By 2040 they should be increased tenfold. Wasn't this an economic attack on Russia? - asked Ageev.

Between 2005 and 2007 annual investments amounted to 70 million US dollars. To date, the Russian government has allocated three billion Russian rubles for AIDS. What were they spent on?

HIV testing and lobbying for changes in the law are done on the basis of information and guidelines on AIDS that are issued with no indication as to who was the author of this information.

Most of the money was spent by the Ministry of Social Development and Health. Funding goes into the bosses' pockets for expensive trips to conferences abroad and for antiretroviral drugs, although the cure rate is zero.

Then Ageev explained in detail the reason for positive HIV testing of drug addicts. He said that almost all drugs cause liver damage and hepatitis within a year of starting, which is the reason for a positive HIV antibody test.

He said drug addicts are also prone to developing tuberculosis (TB), but the disease is not treated in them. According to speedologists, it is more logical to prescribe antiretroviral drugs (ARVs) to drug-dependent patients.

A colleague of his did a small study of two groups of patients at the meningitis and tuberculosis clinic where she works. One group, which was less sick, was given ARV drugs, and the second group, which was more seriously ill, was not given any ARV drug. The mortality rate in the first group was three times higher than in the second, severely ill group.

Dr Juliane Sacher

Dr. Sacher has thirty years of experience treating thousands of AIDS patients, first at Lufthansa and then at her own private clinic.

She has used alternative treatments for AIDS and her detailed report will be available along with others on the Immunity Research Foundation website http://www.immunity.org.uk

Taisiya Bolgova

Taisiya Bolgova is a lawyer working in a remote rural area of ​​Russia.

She told us a heartbreaking story. A young soldier returned to his village after serving in a hot spot. He tested positive and, having read the available booklets about HIV/AIDS, was about to die. He also read that if he "infects" anyone else, he will commit a crime.

Three young women in the village also tested positive and were charged. These three women said they had sexual relations with a young man.

Bolgova was asked to defend the man in court. While reviewing her client’s case, she had some questions. She noticed in her meetings with the women victims that they were all in excellent health. She needed help, and help came to her from Dr. Irina Sazonova’s book “AIDS: The Verdict is Canceled.”

“I read it, and everything fell into place,” Bolgova said.

She decided that the young man was not to blame - no one was to blame, because HIV did not exist - and that the young man should be protected.

She told the judge, as well as the victims and their relatives, about her findings. The judge then decided to do his own research, but did not change his opinion about the defendant’s guilt. He found the man guilty of infecting women, but did not impose a prison sentence.

This was the first time a defendant was found guilty but not sent to prison. Supreme Court overturned the decision and the man must be jailed unless he can “prove his innocence.” (Bolgova believed that the stress of being in combat may have caused him to test positive). He was sentenced to three and a half years in prison. Now he is serving time.

Bolgova said that she feels responsible for the fate of this man and will seek his acquittal. She said she now understands that the AIDS situation is a form of global genocide. No one can be indifferent to this.

Bolgova decided to form a women's public group to highlight this problem. "We can say there is a war and the front line is the family," she said.

The young man will be free in six months. He has read all the literature related to the AIDS debate and is in excellent health. The doctors who told him he would die in 5 years are now visiting him in prison.

Of the three women in the village who tested positive, one is now married with two healthy children. The other has one child, and the third is waiting for the hero of this story when he gets out of prison!

It was fortunate that no ARV drugs were available in this poor region of Russia, and thus none of the affected parties were taking antiretroviral drugs.

Andrey Dmitrevskij

Andrey is a poet, writer and editor of two public newspapers in Moscow: “Our Beskudnikovo” and “Beskudnivets” - a newspaper aimed at young people.

He began by pointing out that when there is a lull in the world of AIDS, this void is soon filled by the emergence of new infectious diseases such as bird flu, SARS.

Dmitrevsky wrote a number of articles on the AIDS debate, based on data received from Irina Sazonova. It received a huge response. Andrew discovered that many people were questioning received ideas about AIDS. He also mentioned the contributions to the debate made by Irina Sazonova's book "Virtual Virus" and Dr. Vladimir Ageev's book "Invented Diseases".

In conclusion, I want to express my deep gratitude to German Avdyushin and the All-Russian Public Movement “All-Russian Parents' Assembly” for their warm hospitality and for such excellent care of us. http://www.oodvrs.ru

V. A. Ageev.

FICTIONAL DISEASES: HIV/AIDS, ATYPICAL PNEUMONIA, BIRD FLU, SWINE FLU, LEGIONARY PNEUMONIA.

Irkutsk, 2006.

The author expresses gratitude to colleagues, students - students and residents, friends and relatives, to all those who helped in the work on this book. I am especially grateful to E. V. Kozhevnikova, A. V. Ageev, Yu. A. Babaskin, E. I. Belinskaya, N. I. Malygina, T. A. Ladatkina for preparing the manuscript for publication.

Instead of a preface 1

Part I. “HIV/AIDS” 2

General understanding of viruses viral infections, immune deficiencies 3

The emergence of the HIV/AIDS hypothesis 4

Origin and paradoxes of HIV/AIDS epidemiology 6

The first victims of the “HIV” hoax 8

"HIV-associated diseases." The true causes of death for “HIV-infected” people 10

Criticism of the ideas of AIDS technologists about the pathogenesis, morphology and clinic of “HIV infection” 12

Non-specificity of diagnosis of HIV infection 15

“Treatment” of virtual infection 16

Instead of an epilogue. Negative consequences of the implementation of the HIV/AIDS doctrine 19

Part II. " Atypical pneumonia» (SARS - severe acute respiratory syndrome) 22

Part III. "Bird Flu" 23

Brief glossary of terms 25

References 26

INSTEAD OF A FOREWORD

I have nothing to do with medicine, but I am convinced that Dr. Ageev is right. While on business trips in the countries of South Africa (Zaire, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Namibia), I realized that the so-called AIDS in these countries is associated with insufficient and poor-quality nutrition for the majority of the population, in other words, with hunger, as well as with various infectious diseases.

V. A. Ageev’s many years of work to clarify the truth about HIV/AIDS testifies to his high civic position and dedication to his medical duty.

Honored Scientist of the Russian Federation, Doctor of Technical Sciences, Professor, laureate of the Russian Government Prize in the field of science and technology, full member of the International Academy of Ecology and Life Safety Zelberg B.I.

If we are going to develop our domestic medical science, we must return to methods of objective and honest assessment of nosology, syndromic diagnosis, treatment and prevention of diseases.

The HIV/AIDS doctrine and the negative social, economic and political situation surrounding it are an indicator of a one-sided, voluntaristic approach to solving the problems of preserving human health.

Corresponding Member of the International Academy of Ecology and Life Safety, laureate of the All-Union Prize for Young Scientists, Associate Professor Portnyagin V.F.

The book by V. A. Ageev “FICTITIOUS DISEASES: HIV/AIDS, ATYPICAL PNEUMONIA, BIRD FLU, SWINE FLU, LEGIONARY PNEUMONIA” 2006, written for a pathologist emotionally on topical and current topic. Several main aspects can be highlighted in it.

1. The scientific basis for the theory of HIV/AIDS, as well as the other diseases listed above, does not have reliable statistical, diagnostic and morphological confirmation, which leads to diagnostic and tactical errors in the treatment of patients. HIV-associated diseases have a clear clinical picture, confirmed by laboratory and morphological data.

2. Diagnosis of HIV/AIDS assumes 100% mortality in the long term, which leads to social consequences, in the form of an increase in the number of suicide attempts, the anger of infected patients and the deliberate infection of healthy people by the so-called. HIV-associated diseases. Due to massive propaganda in the media, the attitude of others towards HIV-positive people is intolerant. Medical confidentiality is not respected in relation to them. Thus, the first HIV-positive patient in Irkutsk (a doctor by specialty) was expelled from the hospital and the city. Although the diagnosis was later removed, the person could not return.

3. Medicine has long become a powerful source of income for various organizations related to the development of diagnostic systems, pharmacological drugs, and analytical assessment of the drug consumption market. The old postulates: “Treat the patient, not the disease” are becoming a thing of the past. This leads to polypromasia, i.e. increased consumption of medications, which in turn have toxic side effects on the body. State nervous system this is not taken into account, which leads to chronic stress, progression of immunodeficiency and various basic and concomitant diseases, and ultimately lead to a reduction in life expectancy.

Associate Professor of the Department of Vascular Surgery and Clinical Angiology of the Irkutsk State University of Military Medicine, Candidate of Medical Sciences, surgeon of the highest category in cardiovascular surgery, and surgeon of the 1st category in general surgery Kuklin A.G.

The existing scientifically unproven concept of HIV/AIDS has nothing to do with the so-called voluntary delusion, which, by the way, happens in science in general, and in medicine in particular. This fact has no analogues in the history of medicine. First of all, due to the fact that in terms of its destructiveness for society, this concept is comparable only to destructive wars.

Against the backdrop of a huge number of human tragedies and colossal financial costs, it is hardly possible to expect that official AIDS medicine will recognize the fallacy of the theory. The doctrine of HIV/AIDS can be classified as an instrument of geopolitics, rather than being considered one of the areas of medical knowledge.

Pathologist of the highest qualification category, head. PJSC MUZ KB No. 1, Irkutsk Svistunov V.V.

In August 2005, the editors of the Irkutsk weekly newspaper “Friday” organized a discussion on the problem of HIV/AIDS. It was attended by representatives of the Irkutsk ANTI-AIDS Center, health care organizers and your humble servant, the author of this book.

An electronic version of the discussion was posted on the website: www.pressa.irk.ru.

Soon the first responses from abroad appeared in the editorial office (www.pressa.irk.ru, “Friday” No. 24, 08.27.05.)

Juliana Zacher- doctor at the AIDS center in Frankfurt am Main (Germany): “I’ve been involved in practical issues with HIV/AIDS patients. You can't imagine how much I can tell you from my experience over the past 20 years. There is such a terrible struggle behind me that is still ongoing. And I am aware of how my like-minded people live.

There are no photographs of HIV anywhere in the world. The pictures that exist are not pure images of the retrovirus. These are electron microscopy photographs of cellular material that appears to have been attacked by a virus. Unfortunately, 95% of our colleagues are not aware of what is a pure image of a virus, and are often caught doing it. I’m ready to help Doctor Ageev.”

Christian Fiala- Austrian scientist, gynecologist (Vienna): “In other countries, specialists like Dr. Ageev, who question the current belief in HIV, have exactly the same fate.

Regarding photographs, I can assure you that after a very long search, I have determined that not a single photograph of HIV or HIV-like particles from a patient's blood has been published to date. As an expert, I can recommend Dr. Etienne de Harve. He spent many years studying retroviruses using electron microscopic research methods.”

AIDS is “Human Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome”. As a rule, they say about this disease that it is “The Plague of the 20th, and now also the 21st century,” “ Terminal stage development of HIV infection”, that AIDS “infects millions of people around the world”, etc….

What if we assume that HIV/AIDS does not exist! Would you say that this is absurd and stupid? However, many scientists still cannot understand the nature of this virus. But is it really a “virus”? Many scientists around the world today are wondering: is it all a hoax?

The material below is an attempt to understand the existing problem by considering an alternative existing point of view, which is often silent when considering issues related to AIDS.

AIDS DISSIDENTS

Thousands of “HIV+” people who are neither drug addicts, nor homosexuals, nor people suffering from hemophilia, without treatment with antiretroviral drugs, live with “death labels” for decades, “violating” the law on “HIV / AIDS”.

On new AIDS prevention programs in Russia by Academician V.V. Pokrovsky received a Global Fund grant in the amount of $88 million. The new program, the academician says, will take into account the mistakes of the previous ones, for example, in them “there will no longer be the notorious putting a condom on a cucumber.”

So, here was the point of view of Vladimir Ageev and thousands of scientists around the world. Let me remind you that the purpose of this material was not to refute the existing official point of view, but only to show a different view on the problem of HIV/AIDS.

In fact, there is something to think about here: false speculation on the topic of AIDS, commercial machinations of pharmaceutical corporations, the direction of money for numerous research - all of this taken together diverts the resources and attention of mankind from solving the real problems of the population of many countries - the same tuberculosis or even the problem of hunger . The worst thing is when the problem of thousands of people becomes very profitable business. There is, for example, a fairly convincing theory that research in the field of new types of energy is artificially hampered by the efforts of the world's largest oil and gas giants. The same would not have happened with the immunodeficiency virus, because, according to Vladimir Ageev, it was never found, and colossal amounts of money are spent on searching for it and developing vaccines against HIV.

FROM THE BOOK BY V.A. AGEEVA “FICTITIOUS DISEASES”, 2006

In the early 80s, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) came up with an idea to link the immunodeficiency of several gay patients with a certain virus. The authors of the project are an immunologist at the Los Angeles Medical Center M. Gottlieb, an employee of the epidemiological intelligence service V. Shandare, and the head of one of the departments of the Center D. Karen. scientists studied T-lymphocytes, a decrease in the number of which in human blood is considered one of the manifestations of immune deficiency.

Gottlieb asked his medical friends to provide information about such patients. They were provided with case histories of several people suffering from Pneumocystis pneumonia. The number of T-lymphocytes in their blood was reduced. All patients turned out to be homosexuals who used drugs and stimulants.

Gottlieb expressed a version about infectious nature immunodeficiency and possible sexual transmission of infection. The scientists' report viewed these few cases as the beginning of a new epidemic. Information about the beginning of the “epidemic” of immune deficiency was immediately published. Soon, a group of Center employees was organized to substantiate the hypothesis and prove that the cause of immunodeficiency is some kind of infectious principle, most likely a virus.

Let us note the first “mistakes” of the hypothesis developers.

Firstly, isolated cases do not give reason to interpret the situation as an epidemic.

Secondly, all five homosexuals were drug addicts and used amyl nitrates. They did not know each other and, naturally, were not mutual sources of infection. There was absolutely no reason, based on these five cases, to treat AIDS as a sexually transmitted infectious disease.

Thirdly, the fact that homosexuals used drugs and drugs with vasodilating and muscle relaxant effects (have the ability to enhance orgasm), which in itself leads to a decrease in immunity, was completely ignored. In addition, unnatural sexual intercourse causes permanent damage to the mucous membrane and sphincters, which is the basis for infection. This means that the body constantly and actively uses nonspecific and specific (immunity) defense systems, the reserves of which are eventually depleted.

Fourthly, it has long been known about the immunosuppressive effect of seminal fluid, primarily manifested during unnatural sexual intercourse.

Thus, the reasons for the developing immunodeficiency state in homosexuals and drug addicts are obvious. The hypothesis about their viral nature looks too far-fetched and, as Etienne de Harve, a professor of pathology at the University of Toronto, writes, “has a very shaky start.”

The CDC, having received considerable funds for the idea of ​​​​the viral nature of immunodeficiencies, invited Robert Gallo, head of the laboratory of cell biology of tumors at the National Cancer Institute, to search for the virus. The order was completed very quickly. Less than two years later, at a famous press conference in Washington on April 23, 1984, Secretary of the Public Health Services Margaret Heckler announced in the presence of Robert Gallo that a retrovirus that was likely the cause of AIDS had just been discovered. Gallo named it HTLV-III.

From that day on, after a sensational announcement about a new deadly virus called AIDS, a protracted battle with this disease began.

Since the launch of the hypothesis that the cause of AIDS may be a virus, virologists from other countries, in addition to R. Gallo, have been searching for it. But the laurels of the discoverer of the immunodeficiency virus were shared by the French professor Luc Montenier from the Pasteur Institute. He is also the author of the designation of a new virus – HIV (human immunodeficiency virus).

Subsequently, R. Gallo and L. Montenier were awarded the Vonla Worapp Alpert Prize of 100 thousand dollars.

According to a group of Australian scientists led by biophysicist E. Papadopoulos-Eleopoulos, the “discoverers” of “HIV” R. Gallo and L. Montenier did not publish photographs confirming the existence of “HIV”. The pictures they presented show an unpurified cell culture containing many different particles that are not viruses at all. Pictures of the merger strip were not published at all. If there really was a virus, then the merger band should contain billions of these particles.

Professor of molecular biology, leading expert on retroviruses P. Duesberg writes: “You can’t hide the truth: other scientists will repeat your experiment and find out whether you were wrong or not.”

Such studies of tissue culture from AIDS patients were carried out by a group of French-German and American scientists in 1997. Those particles that are depicted in the published photographs by each group, firstly, differ from each other, and secondly, they have no resemblance to a retrovirus.

Research data from Australian scientists suggests that no one has ever managed to obtain purified HIV.

HIV PARADOXES

1. It turns out that no one has ever seen the immunodeficiency virus; everyone just refers to the discoverers or “someone abroad.”

2. All existing and studied viruses have the ability to infect only one type of tissue - epithelium, integumentary or glandular, hepatocytes, nerve cells. “HIV” is omnipresent! According to descriptions, it affects cells designed to fight any foreign antigen that enters the body - T-helpers and monocyte-macrophages. In addition, HIV can infect cells of the central nervous system, thymus gland (thymocytes), hematopoietic bone marrow(megakaryocytes), placentas, spermatozoa...

3. With the complete helplessness of antibodies, massive damage not only to T-lymphocytes and macrophages, but also to a huge number of other cells, the process of HIV development in the human body should be of a landslide, cascade nature, develop according to the type chain reaction. In this case, rapid death of the body is inevitable! But nonetheless, incubation period stretched over years, the life expectancy of “HIV-infected” people is up to 5-15 years. Moreover, Academician V.V. Pokrovsky, who heads the Russian AIDS Center, states: “A person can be infected with HIV, but the disease will not develop at all” (!!!).

4. Any infection(flu, hepatitis, tuberculosis, etc.) spreads throughout the entire population, regardless of gender, age, or nationality. As for HIV, according to the descriptions of AIDS technologists, it can infect some, but bypasses others. Thus, a spouse can be a carrier of HIV, but the wife cannot become infected; a person can be a carrier of the virus, infect other people, and not get sick. According to AIDS technologists, representatives of some Scandinavian peoples, as well as Tatars, are protected from HIV infection.

5. HIV is not spread by insects or other living creatures; it is only “interested” in humans. Why, then, such a crazy increase in HIV-infected people, as reported by experts? According to scientists, Africa became the source of the virus, but why, if all known trade routes from Africa to the United States pass through Europe, did HIV-infected people appear primarily in America?

6. In Africa, 100% of AIDS cases are fever, diarrhea (diarrhea) and exhaustion, tuberculosis, leprosy, etc. HIV/AIDS in Central and Southern Africa accounts for 90% of diagnoses worldwide! But how to deal with this fact: over 13 years of the “deadly epidemic” the population of South Africa grew 1.7 times, from 22 million 760 thousand in 1986 to 39 million 900 thousand in 2000?

Continuing the topic...

It is believed that there are over 350 million carriers of the hepatitis B virus and 500 million carriers of hepatitis C in the world. Testing these people for antibodies to HIV usually gives positive reaction. If a person uses drugs, then in most cases the test for HIV antibodies will also be positive.
If a patient is told that he is supposedly HIV-infected, then he is ready to go into a noose, since it is believed that there is no chance of survival. It is immoral to deprive people of hope by labeling them as lepers, no one knows why or on what basis. Doctors need to treat these patients for those diseases, including infectious diseases, from which they really suffer, and not give up in front of the “almighty” HIV, the existence of which remains a figment of the imagination of those who benefit from it.”

DR. ELENI PAPADOPOULOS-ELEOPOULOS:
"NO PERSON CAN BE CONSIDERED HIV-INFECTED"

To the history of the issue. In 1993, the biophysicist of the Royal Perth Hospital (Australia), Dr. Eleni Papadopoulos-Eleopoulos and her colleagues proved the non-specificity of the main “HIV tests” - ELISA and Western Blot, as well as the method of detecting the virus (the so-called viral load) based on the one discovered by the laureate Nobel Prize K. Mullis based on the principle of polymerase chain reaction (PCR), which the scientist himself considers unacceptable when diagnosing HIV.
Research by Australian scientists, as well as the results of experiments by other AIDS dissidents, have shown that many diseases and clinical conditions
non-HIV diseases - tuberculosis, malaria, hepatitis B vaccine, and even the common flu or flu shot - can cause positive result testing for HIV antibodies.
The reliability of diagnosing a patient further when one test is double-checked by others is close to zero.
Dr. Eleni Papadopoulos-Eleopoulos, together with her colleagues, has been fighting against the scientific doctrine of the “plague” for more than 10 years, publishing dozens of papers in major scientific publications. As noted, these scientists spoke via satellite to present their position at the official session of the 12th World AIDS Conference, held in the summer of 1998 in Geneva.
Scientists believe that, in accordance with scientific principles, proof of the existence of any microorganism (also called a particle), including a virus, is its isolation. The modern technology of this research is well known to specialists and is constantly being improved.
Under the influence of the enormous centrifugal force of a high-speed centrifuge, the particle under study moves from the cell culture into a special solution - the so-called pooling strip. Many other particles that were in the culture also accumulate there. Therefore, it is impossible to look through an electron microscope and exclaim triumphantly: “Here it is, this virus!”
Using a centrifuge, the particle of interest to researchers is separated from the rest, that is, purified, and studied. If it is a virus, then it must be of a certain size, “be able” to penetrate a cell, that is, infect it, and reproduce copies of itself there. You cannot become seriously ill by “catching” a virus that is unable to reproduce. In addition, virologists around the world are guided by the rule developed back in 1973 by the Pasteur Institute that electron microscopic photography and publication of images of the association band and purified virus are necessary evidence of its isolation.
According to E. Papadopoulos-Eleopoulos and other AIDS dissident scientists, the “discoverers” of HIV, Luc Montagnier and Robert Gallo, did not publish photographs confirming the existence of HIV. The pictures they presented show a crude cell culture containing many different particles. It has also not been proven that any of them is a retrovirus, to which R. Gallo and L. Montagnier classified HIV. The public, not versed in the specifics of the issue, was given an image of a certain “dirty” microorganism. This is the same as if you collect a mountain of sand and declare that one of the grains of sand is golden.
The author of the article "Behind the Scenes of the Human Immunodeficiency Virus Problem" molecular biologist Dr. Brian Ellison noted: "Molecular biology only works if you purify the material first. There is always the possibility of nonspecific reactions, especially when you put your probes in a broth of proteins and other proteins, which is what the blood sample being tested actually is."
Professor P. Duesberg writes in one of his articles: “You can’t hide the truth: other scientists will repeat your experiment and find out whether you were wrong or not.” So, in 1997, a group of scientists - French-German, as well as from the National Cancer Institute - in full accordance with the proven method -
Todika conducted tissue culture studies of AIDS patients, where the HIV retrovirus was supposed to be located. As noted by Dr. E. Papadopoulos-Eleopoulos and other experts, the particles that are depicted in the electronic photographs published as a result of these studies do not have any resemblance to retroviruses either in size or configuration. Thus, none of them have protuberances, which are used by these microorganisms to attach to and penetrate the cell. Accordingly, the question disappears<о способности их к размножению внутри клетки.
R. Gallo, under pressure from these and many other denials, was forced to admit at a conference organized in Washington under the patronage of the National Institute on Drug Abuse: “We never found HIV in T cells” (New York Native, June 13, 1994).
In his book “Hunting Viruses,” Gallo accuses his former partner, the “discoverer” of HIV, L. Montagnier, of failing to provide evidence that HIV is the cause of AIDS.
Virologists call R. Gallo a “scientific joker.” HIV is not his first big mistake. As noted above, he spent more than 10 years unsuccessfully searching for a virus that, in his opinion, leads to blood cancer. This involved scientifically dubious arguments that Gallo later used to prove the existence of HIV.
Due to the special importance of the issue under consideration, we present an interview with Eleni Papadopoulos-Eleopoulos, published in the magazine Continuum, which highlights in more detail the fundamental objections to the doctrine of the existence of HIV and the hypothesis of infectious AIDS itself. The interview was conducted by Dr. Christine Johnson of the Health Education for AIDS Coordinating Organization (HEAL, Los Angeles).
- Is HIV the cause of AIDS?
- There are no scientifically based facts confirming this, since there is no evidence of the existence of the virus itself.

- This statement seems quite bold and even incredible.
- Perhaps, but our research led us to this conclusion.

- Didn’t Montagnier and Gallo isolate HIV back in the early 80s?
- No. Their articles, published in the journal Science, do not provide evidence of retrovirus isolation from AIDS patients.

- Could you tell us in more detail what led you to this rather radical conclusion?
- Obviously, first we need to explain what a virus is. It is a microscopic particle made up of several proteins strung around a piece of RNA or DNA that replicates inside the cell.
- But don’t bacteria, for example, do this? - Unlike viruses, these microorganisms do not
reproduce in a cell. Everything they take from it or an inorganic source of food or energy remains inside the bacterial cells in subsequent generations. Our own cells reproduce in the same way. Viruses are not able to do this: they do not have the mechanism necessary to reproduce independently.

- How does the virus multiply?
- The protective shell of the viral particle merges with the cell membrane, and the particle penetrates into the cell. Then, using the mechanism of cellular metabolism, viral particles are “disassembled into their component parts”, then synthesized, all viral components are combined - and new particles are formed.

- How?
- Viruses either destroy the cell or, as in the case of retroviruses, bud from the cell membrane. But this does not happen with HIV.

- Do you think that HIV is not a virus?
- In 1973, a conference of leading scientists was held at the Pasteur Institute, which was attended, among other things, by some now famous HIV experts. Having summarized the scientific experience accumulated in this area, scientists came to the conclusion that three things need to be done to prove the existence of the virus. First, grow cells and find a particle that, according to your assumption, may be a virus or at least have an external resemblance to it. Secondly, it is necessary to apply a special technique for separating this particle from others in order to, having divided it into parts, analyze what it consists of. And, finally, to prove that a particle can produce copies of itself, that is, multiply. No reproduction - no virus. This is an extremely important point, and no scientist, especially a virologist, can afford to ignore it.
- Obviously, you can’t get sick by catching a particle that cannot reproduce its own kind?
- Absolutely right.

- As you know, the discoverers of HIV declared that it was a retrovirus. Please explain what this is?
- These are incredibly tiny particles.

- How small are they?
- One ten-thousandth of a millimeter is one hundred nanometers in diameter. Millions of them could fit on the head of a pin.

- How can you see such a small microorganism?

- Using an electron microscope, we see that retroviral particles are almost round in shape, they have an outer shell covered with bulges and an inner core consisting of several proteins and RNA.
Retroviruses do not use their RNA to produce their own kind. Unlike almost all other viruses, they first produce a DNA copy of their RNA, which then moves into the cell nucleus and becomes part of the DNA of the cell itself. This is called a provirus, which is then copied back into RNA. It is this, and not the cell’s original RNA, that “gives commands” for the production of the necessary proteins for the formation of new viral particles.

- Why are they called retroviruses?
- The direction of information flow in the cells of all living beings goes from DNA to RNA, and from there to proteins, the instructions for the synthesis of which are given by RNA. This is considered the "forward" direction. The retro virus does everything in reverse order, that is, “backward.” Another feature is that one of its enzymes (proteins), called reverse transcriptase, catalyzes this process. And the process itself is called “reverse transcription.”

- How long has the method of isolating retroviruses been used?
- More than half a century. In general, retroviruses were among the first microorganisms discovered by humans. They were first discovered by Dr. Reyton Rous of the Rockefeller Center in New York in 1911, when he was experimenting on malignant tumors in chickens. After the invention of the electron microscope, which made it possible to see retroviral particles, it became possible to study their properties in more detail.
To purify particles, the scientist must use a method for separating them from numerous other microorganisms and substances found in the cell culture being studied. A high-speed centrifuge also plays an irreplaceable role.
It was found that retroviral particles have an important physical property - buoyancy, which allows them to be separated from other particles in cell cultures. This was used to purify retroviruses using a process called density gradient centrifugation.

- It doesn’t sound very clear.
- The technology is indeed quite complex, but the concept itself is extremely simple. You prepare a test tube containing a solution of sucrose - ordinary sugar - so that it is weak in saturation at the top, but gradually becomes denser towards the bottom of the tube. You grow cells that you think may contain the retrovirus you are looking for. If present, it will be released from the cells and move into the culture fluids, a sample of which is decanted. One drop is carefully placed on top of the sugar solution.
The test tube is spun at an extremely high speed using a centrifuge. Impact
enormous centrifugal forces force the particles in a drop of solution to move through it until they reach a point at which their buoyancy prevents them from penetrating further.
At this point, their own density will correspond to the density of the solution. The particles stop there or, as virologists say, concentrate in the band of association. Retroviral particles combine only at one point in the sucrose solution - with a density of 1.16 g/ml. They must be removed and photographed with an electron microscope.

- And examination with this microscope shows what kind of “fish” you caught?
- This is the only way known to science in which you can find out whether you have caught this “fish” or anything at all.
At the same time, electronic photography of the merger band at point 1.16 and publication of photographs, as emphasized at the mentioned conference at the Pasteur Institute, are absolutely necessary to prove the result obtained. This rule guides all specialists in this field.

- So, before the emergence of the HIV/AIDS hypothesis, there was already a well-tested method for proving the existence of a retrovirus, but Montapier and Gallo did not use it?
- They used some techniques, but did not carry out all the necessary stages of research, including proving that retroviral particles aggregated in a density gradient, without publishing electron microscopy images of the particles accumulated there. However, they announced that they were allegedly able to obtain purified HIV.

- But these scientists published photographs of viral particles?
- The electron micrographs they published of several particles, which, according to them, were HIV retroviruses, did not even confirm that these particles were viruses at all.

- Please explain in more detail.
- The electron micrographs presented by Montagnier and Gallo, like all others subsequently published, are photographs of crude cell cultures, but not of the density gradient where the hypothetical HIV would be located.

- Could the association band contain other substances, not just retroviral particles?
- Of course, and a lot. This is another reason why photographic proof is required. Long before the era of HIV/AIDS, it was known that particles similar to retroviruses were not the only substance that could find their way into the unification zone. So, tiny pieces, fragments of cells, their internal structures, can also end up there. Some of these substances contain DNA and RNA and are indistinguishable from retroviruses.
Retrovirology specialists strongly advised all researchers to handle cultures carefully and regularly feed them with nutrients to maintain cell viability. But in the case of HIV, everything is different. So, we are told that HIV kills cells. At the same time, there are facts that in many studies on HIV, cells were deliberately destroyed by the experimenters themselves.
All HIV researchers did not take the main step in their evidence - they did not publish pictures of
association los. The only such image was published for the first time only in 1997, based on the results of research conducted by two groups of scientists - the French-German one and the National Cancer Institute.

- What do we see in this photograph?
- In the Franco-German study, photographs were taken at the 1.16 g/ml pooling band. It is not known at what density the micrographs were taken in the American experiment, but let’s assume it was the same. The authors themselves claim that the photographs depict a huge amount of cellular substances, and describe them mainly as “non-viral” or “false” viruses.

- Are there any viral particles in these photographs?
- There are several particles that researchers consider to be retroviral HIV particles, but do not provide any evidence for this.

- Are there many of these supposed HIV particles depicted there?
- Very little, although the merging band should contain billions of such particles that would fill the entire electron micrograph.

- So, in the merging band there were only a few hypothetical HIV particles, and, moreover, unpurified ones?
- Absolutely right.

- Do they really resemble retroviruses in appearance?
- They just look more like them than everyone else. But even if they looked absolutely identical, on this basis alone it cannot be said that they are retroviruses. Even Gallo admits the existence of particles that combine in a density gradient and have the appearance and biochemical characteristics of retroviruses, but are not retroviruses, since they are not able to reproduce their copies.

-Are there any other differences between the particles shown in the pictures and real retroviral ones?- Gallo and other virologists, such as Hans Gelderblom of the Koch Institute in Berlin, who has done most of the electron microscopy research on HIV, agree that retroviral particles are almost spherical in shape, with a diameter 100 - 120 nanometers and covered with bulges. The particles we see in the photographs are not spherical and do not correspond to this diameter. For many of them, this figure is twice the size of the retrovirus. And there are no bulges on any of the particles.

- How important is this for identifying these microorganisms?

- All AIDS experts are convinced that the bumps are absolutely necessary for HIV particles to attach to a cell as the first step in infecting it. Everyone also concluded that the bumps contain a protein called gp120, which is a kind of hook for grasping the cell surface. This can be compared to pirates boarding a merchant ship. But if the putative HIV particles we see in the picture don't have bumps, how is HIV able to enter and multiply within a cell? And if it does not have such a function, then it is not an infectious particle. No accession - no infection and, accordingly, no disease.
The photograph taken does not suggest that it depicts retroviruses or, more importantly, the specific retrovirus HIV.
Participants in the experiment also reported that these cultures contained a bewildering array of particles. This raises new questions. If one of the particles in these cultures is indeed the HIV retrovirus, what are all the others? If HIV particles come from the tissues of AIDS patients, where did the others come from? If these particles cause AIDS, why can't one or more other particles, or all of them together, also cause AIDS?
No one still knows what any of these so-called HIV particles are. We don't even have evidence that it is a retrovirus to extract proteins from it - proteins and RNA - to use in tests for infection in humans or to conduct experiments to find out what happens in the body if the virus that causes AIDS actually enters there .
All this substantiates the position that we have taken from the very beginning and defended in our publications: there is still no evidence proving the isolation of the HIV retrovirus from AIDS patients or from people at risk of developing AIDS.

- How do representatives of official AIDS science comment on these refutations?
- They avoid answering such questions.

-Let's still assume that we actually have a photograph of a density gradient with thousands or millions of particles of the correct size and shape, with bulges and other features of retroviruses. What needs to be done next?
- We need to disassemble the particles, find out what proteins and RNA they contain, prove that one of the proteins is a reverse transcriptase enzyme that converts RNA into DNA, and that purified particles, introduced into an uninfected cell culture, reproduce copies of themselves.

- This was not done?

- No. But perhaps I can explain the reasons for this by talking about some of Gallo's 1984 research.

- Doesn't that period seem too distant from our days?
- Don't think. The results of these experiments are extremely important: everything that most professionals still believe and have been taught about HIV/AIDS is based on these studies. They are the basis for the very doctrine of the existence of the HIV particle, the proteins of this virus used in tests for HIV infection, as well as HIV RNA, which is widely used to measure the so-called viral load - the number of viral particles in a certain volume of blood.

- Why, by the way, did Gallo become interested in the problem of AIDS?
- He was one of many virologists passionate about the idea of ​​defeating the blood cancer from which President Nixon suffered, and by 1984 he had spent more than 10 years studying the hypothesis of the relationship between retroviruses and this disease.
In the mid-1970s, Gallo announced that he was the first to discover a human retrovirus in such patients. At the same time, as he would later do with HIV, Gallo used the antibody response to prove the presence of this microorganism. However, other researchers soon announced that they had found exactly the same antibodies in many people who did not have blood cancer. Several years later it was proven that these antibodies also occur naturally and that they act against many antigens that had nothing to do with the retrovirus. It became clear that Gallo's "discovery" turned out to be a big mistake, which turned out to be a shame for him, and his mythical retrovirus was soon forgotten. Gallo himself prefers not to remember this failure.
But in 1980, he announced that he had discovered another retrovirus (HTLV-1), which allegedly leads to an extremely rare form of this disease - T4 cell leukemia. We emphasize that the arguments used to prove the discovery of these viruses are from the same line as those currently used to confirm the existence of HIV.

- What are they?
- These retroviruses were thought to infect T4 cells. However, over the entire period since the announcement of this hypothesis, 99% of people who tested HIV-positive for this virus turned out to be actually healthy.

- And yet the hypothesis was put forward that HIV kills T4 cells?
- Gallo initially thought the culprit might be a “leukemia virus,” but the theory was problematic: the virus supposedly caused the disease when patients had too many T4 cells. However, homosexuals with AIDS - a weakened immune system and low levels of such cells - very often suffered from Kaposi's sarcoma (Kaposis sarcoma), which is now declared one of the AIDS-associated diseases. Gallo persisted in trying to find a pathogenic retrovirus to explain this phenomenon, carrying out a large number of experiments, the results of which, reflecting the most successful stage of research, were
published in Science magazine in May 1984. A year earlier, Montagnier's group also published their HIV research in the same journal.
Gallo's team began by growing T4 cells from AIDS patients, but apparently none of the cultures produced enough reverse transcriptase (RT) to convince them of the presence of a retrovirus.
Then Czech researcher Mikulas Popovic, who worked with Gallo, suggested that he try mixing culture solutions from 10 people with AIDS, adding this “cocktail” to a culture of leukemia cells obtained several years earlier from a patient suffering from this disease. Indeed, a sufficient amount of reverse transcriptases began to be produced, which gave the researchers reason to decide that they had finally “found” a new retrovirus.
However, without taking into account other features of the retrovirus, this cannot serve as evidence of its presence in culture. Firstly, the existence of OT was indirectly proven in Gallo's studies. Secondly, there is now much more information about OT. For example, as Nobel Prize winner Harold Varmus, head of the US National Institutes of Health, notes, reverse transcriptases are not unique to retroviruses. Thus, they are also present in uninfected cells. Bacteria also have the ability to carry out OT. Some of the chemicals that serve as essential components for culture research cause normal lymphocytes to also begin reverse transcription. These examples can be continued.

- Consequently, the data obtained by Gallo on the observation of OT in the suspected HIV cannot be considered convincing arguments?
- It's the same problem as with all his other evidence. For example, the particles that Gallo photographed, it seemed to him, could be retroviruses. But you can’t build a scientific theory based only on what you think could be, but not what actually is.

“However, no matter how far Gallo and all his followers strayed from the traditional method of isolating a retrovirus, these cultures were known to have had some particles in them, and many well-known experts consider them to be retroviruses.
- Retroviral-like particles are found very commonly in human leukemia tissue, in fetal tissue cultures, and in most human and animal placentas. This is important to note because, for example, Montagnier obtained his electron micrographs from cultures made from umbilical cord blood lymphocytes.
So, there is a proven, logical method of proving the existence of a retrovirus, based on defining it as a particle that has a certain size, shape, appearance, components and the ability to reproduce its copies. But for some unknown reason, this method was ignored precisely during the era of the discovery of HIV. In fact, we see evidence of dubious value - some particles not photographed in the density gradient, and some evidence of reverse transcriptase. Nothing in these data is evidence that the HIV retrovirus exists. Gallo himself is now forced to admit this.
Then the idea of ​​antibodies supposedly reacting to HIV appears. If in fact there is a virus, and a foreign one at that, it should “switch on” the mechanism for producing antibodies in people infected with it.
In one of the papers, Gallo discusses the need for specific antibodies or proteins to identify a particle as a virus. However, there are many antibodies in the body. Designed to combat one pathogenic microorganism, they can react to another. Immunologists call this a cross-reaction. An antibody that reacts with a virus protein in culture may be intended for a completely different antigen. In other words, antibodies often choose other than their “partners”. My colleague Dr. Val Turner jokingly calls this behavior "promiscuity."
However, currently, the detection of antibodies is used as one of the most important arguments to prove the existence of HIV when diagnosing patients. But antibodies can be specific to a virus, be it HIV or some other virus, if the virus itself is present.

- Let's assume that these antibodies are truly specific, produced exclusively in response to HIV and react only with its proteins. Could there be any confirmation of the existence of HIV in this case?
- Let’s assume that this phenomenal specificity is scientifically confirmed, and let’s make one more assumption: each of the numerous antibodies reacts only with the substance that stimulates its appearance, and with nothing else. Antibodies to tuberculosis microbes enter into
- There are two types of antibodies: specific, which, suppose, are caused by HIV and react only with it, and nonspecific, caused by other infectious agents. Moreover, nonspecific ones react not only with them, but can also react with other substances, including suspected HIV.
There is ample evidence that people who are generally considered not to be HIV-infected have antibodies that react with proteins purportedly related to HIV and used in testing.
If you add blood serum to some of the HIV proteins in a culture or test, the solution may change color, supposedly indicating the presence of HIV. But how can you tell which antibodies are doing this? Specific or non-specific? Or a mixture of them? This is unknown to anyone, but nevertheless, it does not prevent people from “determining” HIV infection using this completely unfounded technique.
The human body is filled with many antibodies to such a huge number of different antigens that several of them can easily react with two or three of the ten proteins present in an HIV test. This is enough to become “HIV-positive” with all the ensuing consequences for a person.
There is now much evidence that the antibodies produced by the immune system in response to infection by several microbes, which affect 90% of AIDS patients, react with all the so-called HIV proteins, which gives an erroneous result in the diagnosis. These microbes, known as mycobacteria and yeasts, are the cause of many diseases that have been attributed to AIDS, in particular Pneumocystis pneumonia, which is widespread among AIDS patients, caused by the pathogenic microorganism Pneumocystis. What does HIV have to do with it?

- It turns out that tests for HIV antibodies are absolutely useless?
- Not certainly in that way. There is appropriate evidence, published, in particular, in the Lancet journal, that an HIV-positive test signals a predisposition to certain diseases that are not classified as AIDS. However, such a signal must be carefully checked in the future with other diagnostic tools, and this does not mean at all that the link between all these diseases is some pathogenic retrovirus HIV. This is by definition impossible until its existence is first proven by its isolation and then used to detect HIV antibodies.
But this does not automatically provide grounds for asserting that HIV causes AIDS just because the virus is found in AIDS patients. Association does not prove causation. You can be present at a bank robbery, but not be the robber. However, this flawed diagnostic method remains without alternative and is still used in all countries, increasing the number of so-called HIV-infected people.
A serious problem is that most so-called HIV-positive people believe that they will inevitably suffer painful illnesses and death from AIDS. The health of patients is undermined by this awareness. And their doctors are forced to use drugs that are harmful to the body to defeat a virus that people actually do not have.

- How dangerous are these drugs?
- AZT, the first and still most widely used treatment for HIV, is well known for its toxic effects that cause diseases of the immune system now called AIDS.
In addition, currently, in accordance with the guidelines of the US Center for Disease Control, some symptoms require a patient to be diagnosed as having AIDS, even if his tests for HIV antibodies were negative.

- This seems like madness.
- Such official information has been published.
It's time to question the very existence of HIV, following the example of scientists from the National Cancer Institute, who disproved the existence of the mythical leukemia virus that Gallo invented.

- But Gallo argued that it is VLP that causes AIDS.
- In his 1984 articles in Science magazine, Gallo did not make such a categorical statement, only noting that HIV was the “probable cause of AIDS.” But even if Gallo’s research were indisputable proof that the retrovirus exists, then, according to his own data, he was able to “isolate HIV” in only 26 out of 72 AIDS patients. This is only 36%, which should already make the researcher doubt his conclusions. At the same time, HIV antibodies were detected in 88% of patients. Why were there more patients with antibodies without the virus than patients with the virus? In this case, the least specific test was used - ELISA. Even then, no one diagnosed HIV infection using this test alone; it had to be checked by another - Western Blot.
At that time, there was not even a hint of any evidence that HIV killed T4 cells or that low numbers of them could cause all the many diseases now diagnosed as AIDS.
But two years later, when Gallo defended himself against accusations that he had used a virus discovered by Montagnier to promote his theory, he was much more emphatic, saying that he had been presented with “clear” evidence that HIV was the cause of AIDS. And his opinion then did not change. Let me quote Gallo's words from the 1993 TV movie The Plague:
"The irrefutable evidence that convinced the scientific community that this type of virus is the cause of AIDS was put forward by us. The cultivation of the virus was carried out in our laboratory. The development of a comprehensive blood test for HIV was carried out here. I do not think there is any need to try to expose this doubt. I think history and facts speak for themselves."

- What can you say about the test for HIV genetic material, which determines the so-called viral load based on the polymerase chain reaction - PCR?
- This test is based on matching a portion of the patient's RNA or DNA with a test piece of RNA or DNA thought to be components of hypothetical HIV particles. But if they have not been isolated, purified and studied, then what can such diagnostics give? HIV researchers themselves say that there are about 100 million HIV RNAs in every AIDS patient. How can a virus have so many varieties while remaining the same microorganism?
The inventor of PCR, Nobel Prize laureate Professor K. Mullis, has repeatedly stated that this method can be used in many scientific studies, primarily in the field of genetics, but not in diagnosing HIV/AIDS.

- How long have you and your colleagues been of the opinion that HIV does not exist?
- Since 1983, when we first learned about the hypothesis of HIV, which supposedly leads to incurable AIDS. However, due to the opposition of official opponents, our first article, which put forward a non-viral theory of AIDS, was published only in 1988 in the well-known journal Medical Hypotheses. Back then, the debate about HIV isolation was not as open as it is today, and it was very difficult to question its existence.
That same year, my colleague Val Turner and I wrote a paper explaining the AIDS issues we discussed today. We addressed these studies to practicing physicians and proposed them to a journal published in Australia specifically for this group of specialists, but were refused.
We were perhaps the first scientists in the world to put forward the idea that AIDS in gay men was caused by non-infectious factors, and to propose a non-infectious theory of the disease for all risk groups.

- Why do almost the entire scientific world and most doctors unconditionally support the official hypothesis of HIV/AIDS?
- It is completely unrealistic to expect that everyone who works in the field of HIV/AIDS research and feels very comfortable with it would, on their own initiative, analyze this problem to the same degree as our group and some other AIDS dissident scientists.
I can only speculate as to why they interpret information the way they do. Maybe because there are photographs containing particles similar to the virus, and reverse transcriptase has been identified in the same cultures. It is tempting to lump all these factors - particles, reverse transcriptase, antibodies that react with proteins, etc. - into one hypothesis and argue for the existence of a retrovirus.
But this ignores objective realities. Representatives of official AIDS medicine did not consider it necessary to find out the true causes of AIDS, being content with a set of secondary criteria related to the hypothetical HIV. This is the same as if a doctor saw a patient with a fever, with diarrhea, vomiting, and in an unconscious state - and immediately announced that it was cholera. Of course it is
There may be cholera, but there are a dozen other dangerous diseases with similar symptoms. What if a person’s life depends on this doctor’s mistake?

- Does everything you said mean that HIV may someday be put an end to, just like the leukemia virus??
“Our group is confident that other scientists will sooner or later come to the same conclusion.”

-Could you name the main reason preventing the resolution of scientific problems related to AIDS?
- From our point of view, the main obstacle in this regard is the unconfirmed hypothesis of the existence of HIV.

- This probably explains why your group wrote such a large number of scientific papers against this theory?
- Absolutely right. In fact, we have written many more papers than have been published. One of the most important was our article in the journal Bio/Technology - now called Nature/Biotechnology - where we clearly stated that there was no evidence of HIV shedding. But again there was no reaction from official AIDS medicine.

- It turns out that you are still in the minority?
- In science, as we know, the truth does not always depend on the opinion of the majority. But we were and remain scientists who refute the very existence of HIV and all the associated postulates of the official AIDS doctrine. The main conclusion here, in our opinion, is the following: since not a single researcher has isolated HIV from the tissues of AIDS patients, not a single person can be diagnosed as HIV-infected. And we will continue to defend this position.
The results of research by Australian specialists are supported by AIDS dissidents in other countries. Thus, an outstanding scientist who led research on the isolation of the so-called marine virus, carried out in order to preserve the ecology of the marine environment, Dr. Stefan Lanka also concluded that the existence of HIV has not been proven: “Nothing has been isolated that can be called HIV - only cellular proteins, and among them the enzyme reverse transcriptase, which, despite the claims of AIDS orthodoxies that it is supposedly specific for retroviruses, was discovered by researchers in all living cells back in 1983 - 1984.
No HIV - no false diagnosis of AIDS - no death sentence, as well as erroneous treatment, suffering and death of patients, but there are new and new opportunities for those who are labeled "HIV positive" and who become victims of medical myopia."